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	<title>Comments on: Why most sales pitches to nonprofits don&#8217;t work</title>
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		<title>By: Marc A. Pitman</title>
		<link>http://fundraisingcoach.com/2008/08/07/why-most-sales-pitches-to-nonprofits-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-13853</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc A. Pitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Beth!</description>
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		<title>By: BethP</title>
		<link>http://fundraisingcoach.com/2008/08/07/why-most-sales-pitches-to-nonprofits-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-13852</link>
		<dc:creator>BethP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what an enlightening conversation!  Thanks to Conor&#039;s Fundraising Blog for highlighting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what an enlightening conversation!  Thanks to Conor&#8217;s Fundraising Blog for highlighting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Why sales pitches to non profits dont work &#171; Conor&#8217;s Fundraising Blog</title>
		<link>http://fundraisingcoach.com/2008/08/07/why-most-sales-pitches-to-nonprofits-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-13847</link>
		<dc:creator>Why sales pitches to non profits dont work &#171; Conor&#8217;s Fundraising Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sales pitches to non profits dont&#160;work  This is a great post by Marc Pitman of The Fundraising Coach Blog. I think it is really worth reading so here it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sales pitches to non profits dont&nbsp;work  This is a great post by Marc Pitman of The Fundraising Coach Blog. I think it is really worth reading so here it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marc A. Pitman</title>
		<link>http://fundraisingcoach.com/2008/08/07/why-most-sales-pitches-to-nonprofits-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-13841</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc A. Pitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Simon!

Isn&#039;t it a shame that nonprofit folks can be so insular? They&#039;re definitely missing out on your skills!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Simon!</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it a shame that nonprofit folks can be so insular? They&#8217;re definitely missing out on your skills!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Kirby</title>
		<link>http://fundraisingcoach.com/2008/08/07/why-most-sales-pitches-to-nonprofits-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-13840</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fair point Marc...

I was responding more to your comment about not being &quot;pitched&quot; to which I perhaps took out of context.

You may have guessed that i come from the commercial sales arena! I am trying to move into corporate fundraising for not for profit and while I have experience of fundraising for a charity on a volunteer basis I am finding it 
difficult to break into the sector. I get the impression that many not for profits like to employ people from their own sector and do not want to take a risk on people with commercial experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fair point Marc&#8230;</p>
<p>I was responding more to your comment about not being &#8220;pitched&#8221; to which I perhaps took out of context.</p>
<p>You may have guessed that i come from the commercial sales arena! I am trying to move into corporate fundraising for not for profit and while I have experience of fundraising for a charity on a volunteer basis I am finding it<br />
difficult to break into the sector. I get the impression that many not for profits like to employ people from their own sector and do not want to take a risk on people with commercial experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc A. Pitman</title>
		<link>http://fundraisingcoach.com/2008/08/07/why-most-sales-pitches-to-nonprofits-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-13839</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc A. Pitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Simon. But I&#039;m missing how it relates to this post.

Yes, I&#039;ve read Carnegie and love it. Try to read it annually. 

But the point of this blog wasn&#039;t to draw some sort of false distinction between sales and fundraising. I actually pride myself on teaching sales skills to nonprofit folks in a way that doesn&#039;t cause them to put up walls or defenses.

This email was about people that want to pitch fundraising people into buying the seller&#039;s product to raise funds for the fundraising people&#039;s nonprofit. Candy sales, furniture sales, gas card sales, etc. 

Does that make sense? Or am I still missing the jist of your comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Simon. But I&#8217;m missing how it relates to this post.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve read Carnegie and love it. Try to read it annually. </p>
<p>But the point of this blog wasn&#8217;t to draw some sort of false distinction between sales and fundraising. I actually pride myself on teaching sales skills to nonprofit folks in a way that doesn&#8217;t cause them to put up walls or defenses.</p>
<p>This email was about people that want to pitch fundraising people into buying the seller&#8217;s product to raise funds for the fundraising people&#8217;s nonprofit. Candy sales, furniture sales, gas card sales, etc. </p>
<p>Does that make sense? Or am I still missing the jist of your comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Kirby</title>
		<link>http://fundraisingcoach.com/2008/08/07/why-most-sales-pitches-to-nonprofits-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-13838</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc
Have you read the book &quot;How to win friends and influence people&quot; by Dale Carnegie? People sell and buy from each other all the time and fundraisers are surely no exception.

If you are raising funds from people who only benefit from &quot;the joy of giving&quot; they still have to understand they will be receiving that joy by giving to your organization. Presumably you explain to them where that money is going and how it will be used which is all part of a sales process. If you &quot;pitch&quot; it badly then you won&#039;t receive the funding however worthy your organization may be. 
My belief is that many fundraisers are in denial and that they actually follow a similar process used by people in commercial sales. I will leave it to other readers to think why that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc<br />
Have you read the book &#8220;How to win friends and influence people&#8221; by Dale Carnegie? People sell and buy from each other all the time and fundraisers are surely no exception.</p>
<p>If you are raising funds from people who only benefit from &#8220;the joy of giving&#8221; they still have to understand they will be receiving that joy by giving to your organization. Presumably you explain to them where that money is going and how it will be used which is all part of a sales process. If you &#8220;pitch&#8221; it badly then you won&#8217;t receive the funding however worthy your organization may be.<br />
My belief is that many fundraisers are in denial and that they actually follow a similar process used by people in commercial sales. I will leave it to other readers to think why that is.</p>
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